he did lay out things like trade agreement with the eu, natural gas, in terms of balancing the budget, how you do that. probably disagreement how he gets there and talked about manufacturing and immigration. seems like a few ideas some business leaders could get on board. from the business roundtable they liked immigration and natural gas parts. obviously, there's a lot of other stuff in there they didn't lik like. >> personally, i can't believe in 2013 we're still having an immigration discussion. >> yeah. >> i think this whole matter should have been resolved years ago. i still think it should be resolved and resolved quickly. thick this who i think this whole focus protecting the border, et cetera. nobody's coming to the united states anymore. the jobs aren't here. in reference to your comments about the president's speech last night, i think this whole direction of renaissance of manufacturing is wonderful. it's terrific. the only problem is we don't have the talented -- we don't have the bodies. so if i were betting, i would say the more the president encoura encourages domestic